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June 30, 2006

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S.cotus

I don’t think the government could proceed against him in a court martial, but rather in a similar proceeding that follows the same procedure, simply because a court martial would be reserved for members of our forces.

Anon

Hamdan was a hard case to win on the merits, but that assumes that the five Justices in the majority were concerned with the merits. My guess is that they saw this as a Korematsu moment and were going to rebuff the Administration whether that was easy or hard on the merits.

Jacob Howley

S.cotus:
Prisoners of war are subject to the UCMJ and can therefore be court-martialed. See 10 U.S.C. 802(a)(10). Of course, the whole "enemy combatant" business is designed precisely to avoid our obligations to POWs, but it looks like the Supreme Court has just pierced that veil.

S.cotus

I think that provision only applies the UCMJ to POWs, but not necessarily a court martial, which is a specific type of proceeding. The Supremes sort of acknowledge this in footnote 45. However, proceedings that have actually be used have been very similar to courts-martials. But, obviously the punishments would be different (e.g. no reduction in rank) and the members would not be from the accused's own forces.

Jacob Howley

S.cotus:
What you say makes common sense, but I keep coming back to the text of the UCMJ. E.g. 10 U.S.C. 872(a): "Each armed force has court-martial jurisdiction over all persons subject to this chapter." Again, to be subject to the chapter (and the Geneva Conventions), the GTMO detainees have to be POWs, so it looks to me like the Court has more or less implicitly overturned the President's whole "enemy combatants" charade.

S.cotus

Jacob, I am with you that, at least in the initial analysis, the court overturned the EC “charade.” It may be that after some inquiry some people are found to have actually violated the law of war *against American forces* (e.g. pretending to be civilians, and/or stabbing Americans in the back) which might create a more robust EC theory (but such determination would have to be via the UCMJ. Anyway, I agree with the first poster, that they are, as of now, subject to the UCMJ, but it is important to recognize that even under the UCMJ, any procedure wouldn’t be necessarily a “court martial.” On p. 61 the court says:

“In part because the difference between military commissions and courts-martial originally was a difference of jurisdiction alone, and in part to protect against abuse and ensure evenhandedness under the pressures of war, the procedures governing trials by military commission historically have been the same as those governing courtsmartial. See, e.g., 1 The War of the Rebellion 248 (2d series 1894) (General Order 1 issued during the Civil War required military commissions to “be constituted in a similar manner and their proceedings be conducted according to the same general rules as courts-martial in order to prevent abuses which might otherwise arise”).”

The court goes on to repudiate Yamashita.

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